Vol. XXIV No. 3
November 2008

Gilbert on Bernstein—A Conversation

Honoring a N.Y. Cultural Hero and an International Music Icon

As New York prepares to honor one of its greatest cultural heroes, Leonard Bernstein, another New Yorker is getting ready to step into some big shoes. In 2009, Alan Gilbert will become the first Manhattan native to serve as music director of the New York Philharmonic. Mr. Gilbert recently sat down in conversation with Juilliard Journal writer Evan Fein to discuss his thoughts about Bernstein, the challenges of assuming the master’s old position, and Gilbert’s own role in the upcoming citywide celebration of the late composer-conductor’s 90th birthday—which includes conducting the Philharmonic at Carnegie Hall on November 14, the exact date of the 65th anniversary of Bernstein’s legendary debut there, and leading the Juilliard Orchestra 10 days later in a performance of Bernstein’s Kaddish and Beethoven’s “Eroica” symphonies at Avery Fisher Hall. Jennifer Zetlan will be the soprano soloist for the Kaddish, which will also feature Polish-born American international attorney and author Samuel Pisar as speaker. (Pisar wrote a new narration for the work, at Bernstein’s request, based on his own experience as a Holocaust survivor.) This concert will mark Mr. Gilbert’s first appearance with the Juilliard Orchestra since his days here as a student.

Leonard Bernstein in 1971. As part of a citywide festival celebrating the late maestro's 90th birthday, Alan Gilbert will conduct the Juilliard Orchestra in Bernstein's Kaddish Symphony on November 24. (Photo by Marion S. Trikosko)

Why did you choose to pair the “Eroica” with the Kaddish?
It would be nice to be able to say that there’s always a philosophical connection—which actually, there happens to be between these two pieces. While Bernstein’s Kaddish is ultimately an optimistic work, it’s a prayer for the dead, and Beethoven Three has a funeral march—it’s about man’s quest for finding meaning and his place in the world. But actually, that’s not really why the program was decided on. We wanted, as part of this Bernstein festival that the New York Philharmonic is jointly presenting with Carnegie Hall, to do all of the Bernstein symphonies, and the Kaddish seemed like a very exciting piece to do with Juilliard students. Musically, educationally, it seemed like a wonderful project. The Beethoven Third is such a masterpiece; I think it happens to work well psychologically and philosophically with the Bernstein.

Have you ever conducted the Kaddish before?
No, I never have. It’s a piece I’ve only heard a couple of times. It’s exciting for me to do a new piece, and I’ve been studying away at it.

It’s sometimes considered one of Bernstein’s most difficult pieces, both for audiences and for performers.
It’s definitely a hard piece for the performers. I think there was something very sincere about Bernstein’s search. A lot of his music you can feel is about the quest for understanding, the quest for meaning: why we’re here, why there’s pain, why life is difficult, and ultimately, how to find happiness. It’s a prayer for the dead—obviously a difficult subject. In that sense, I think it’s a little bit of a heavy morsel to chew on. But on the other hand, Leonard Bernstein himself—and I think this comes though in all of his pieces—was such an optimistic person, and there’s something very honest and true about the struggle that comes out of his music. I think it’s something that people can really identify with, and it’s wonderful music.

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Event Information
Bernstein: The Best of All Possible Worlds

Avery Fisher Hall
Monday, Nov. 24, 7:30 p.m.

The Juilliard Orchestra, Alan Gilbert, conductor; Jennifer Zetlan, soprano; Samuel Pisar, narrator. With the Oratorio Society of New York and the Young People's Chorus of New York City.

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